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SUMMARY: Syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks join Judy Woodruff to discuss the week’s political news, including the House Judiciary Committee’s passage of articles of impeachment along party lines, Republicans’ defense of President Trump, how impeachment affects Trump politically, what the Horowitz report says about the FBI and a bombshell report on the Afghan war.
Judy Woodruff (NewsHour): Abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, as of today, those are the Judiciary Committee-approved charges against President Trump. Now it is on the full House of Representatives to decide whether or not to impeach him.
To help us analyze this important week, as always, are Shields and Brooks. That is syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks.
Hello to both of you.
So these two articles of impeachment, David, how strong a case have the Democrats made with this?
David Brooks, New York Times: Well, two things. One, I think they have made a strong case.
I think there was clearly a campaign to have a quid pro quo with Ukraine, and it's clearly an impeachable offense.
As for the articles of impeachment, I don't like them. Abuse of power, what is that? Like, that's not a criminal thing. Like, it's a vague construct. And same with obstruction of Congress. Like, these are both extremely vague constructs.
And I think they lead away from what actually happened, what crime was committed, and what should the punishment be. And they will lead to a debate over these vague concepts.
The concepts should hug closely to some sort of criminal concept that's in our court system, so we all have a history about it, so we know the structure of it, and these sort of waft away from it. So, I think they make the case. I just don't like the way they framed it.
Judy Woodruff: Mark, too vague and not on the point?
Mark Shields, syndicated columnist: David, too vague? No, never.
Judy, I think the best case was made by a unique person, in the sense of Zoe Lofgren, who was a staffer for Don Edwards on the House Judiciary Committee at the time of the Nixon impeachment, was a member at the time of Bill Clinton's impeachment, is now in the House Judiciary Committee.
And she — I thought she drew the distinction quite compellingly. And that was that Richard Nixon, no comporting with a foreign power, no attempt to bring the foreign influence into our elections, that he had tried to influence the election improperly, and tried to cover it up with the FBI and the CIA, and paid for it.
That Bill Clinton, no foreign influence, no rigging of an election, he had, totally improperly and indefensibly, had sexual relations with a 21-year-old intern and lied about it.
But this was a President [Trump] trying to rig an election coming up in 2020, using a country, an ally under duress, facing an external threat to its survival from Moscow and — from Russia, and in need of our assistance that had already been voted for, and asking for exchange to get that, to meet — or meeting even with the President to validate the new leader of our ally there, that they spy on an upcoming election in the President's principal opponent.
Judy Woodruff: And you're saying these articles capture that? Or they…
Mark Shields: I think they capture — I mean, I think it's pretty — I just think it's quite straightforward and clearly understandable, and clearly understandable to anybody.
And I think, Judy, quite honestly, no Republican I know will be able to explain to his or her grandchildren why he or she voted against this, I mean, that this was defensible, that this was acceptable behavior on the part of a President of the United States.
David Brooks: I think it will say, oh, I might have voted for censure. This doesn't rise to the level of impeachment.
I still think that's their strongest argument, aside from just throwing up smoke.
Judy Woodruff: But are you saying, David, that there's another — there's a different article that they could have, should have come up?
David Brooks: Well, I should have gone to law school because I would know.
(LAUGHTER)
I didn't go to law school. So I don't have the exact phrase. I just think the phrase abuse of power just doesn't — it just means nothing and everything to me.
Judy Woodruff: And obstruction of Congress?
David Brooks: Well, that's a little closer. But, frankly, so many people have been accused and sometimes removed for office from that, that do we really undo an election over that one?
And I think something serious happened here. But it was that — what Mark just described. But, somehow, the way we're about to debate this doesn't seem to get the seriousness of it.
Mark Shields: Well, just one side has engaged in the debate. I mean, the Republicans have not.
I mean, there was an acknowledgment on the part of Clinton's defenders that he had done something wrong, even with Nixon, that there had been a break-in. I mean, the Republicans are just in a state of denial. They're sailing blithely on the river denial, I mean, that there was nothing, nothing was done.
This is — Mick Mulvaney tells us, wake up and grow up and accept it.
Judy Woodruff: The Republicans are calling it a sham, a waste of time.
The President himself is doing the same thing. He's tweeting a lot. He was out on the campaign trail this week. He was in Hershey, Pennsylvania, talking about the impeachment process, also singling out the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff.
And here's what the President said:
President Donald Trump: The president of Ukraine repeatedly declared that there was no pressure, but he didn't want to say that.
We said, say it. Say it, you crooked bastard. Say it.
(LAUGHTER)
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
President Donald Trump: But he doesn't want to say it. We said, say it.
I'd like to force him to say it.
(LAUGHTER)
President Donald Trump: He will walk up to the mic. "Ladies and gentlemen."
(LAUGHTER)
President Donald Trump: The guy total corrupt guy.
Judy Woodruff: So that plays well with Trump supporters, doesn't it?
David Brooks: He's a showman. And that's showbiz.
And I have to say, I had a friend come from — he'd been away in Israel and came back to the United States. And he came to me, he said, Trump's really funny.
And I don't always see the humor. But, in Hershey, Pennsylvania, tens of thousand of people saw the humor, and hundreds of thousands of million — hundreds of millions — or tens of millions of people around the country see the humor.
And they just think the guy's funny, and I like that.
Judy Woodruff: It seems — it's working? I mean, he's using coarse, tough language.
Mark Shields: It's not working. He's running behind Joe Biden and every other leading Democrat.
Judy, just think of politicians, political leaders in your lifetime, whether it's the city — shining city on a hill, or the hope, and that's — or what we can do together, you know, what we owe each other.
This is the antithesis of that. This is the politics of grievance. This is not that we are surrounded by those with whom we can work, we can reach across, we can — that my opponent is — my adversary is not mistaken or ill-informed. My opponent is my enemy and is evil and hates this country and hates you.
And, boy, that didn't echo through Jim Jordan's words. I mean, Donald Trump has spawned protégées and knockoff versions: They hate us. They're out to get us.
It really is — it's a terribly bleak and dismal and dark America that this President portrays and those who support him.
David Brooks: You know, we have all based our careers on the notion that we can have a conversation.
And so I would stand up for those values as much as anybody. But in a time when people hate the political establishment so much, one of Trump's secrets is to find there has to be a stylistic way of talking that seems different.
And even for those of us on our side have to find the stylistic way of talking that feels authentic to people. And some of the old communication styles that we used to do or that candidates used to do, I think that just is not resonating with people right now.
And that's been true around the world. And you can get somebody who's conservative or progressive who doesn't exhaust everybody all the time and who actually talks in a normal tone and actually listens.
Mark Shields: Yes. No.
David Brooks: But, somehow, something has to change. And that's one of the things we have learned, not only from Trump, but the world politics.
Judy Woodruff: Some people are pointing to Boris Johnson winning in Britain.
Mark Shields: Yes.
I guess just — and I agree with David, but just one point, Judy, and that is, at no point is there any celebration of what we have achieved in this country, I mean, the fact that we have cut the poverty rate among people over the age of 65 by two-thirds, that we have removed 85 percent of lead from the air, I mean, all of the things we have done and are doing.
We have got a long way to go. But we have achieved, and there are good things that America does.
Judy Woodruff: Two — well, in a completely different direction, two investigations I want to ask you both about.
One, David, is the inspector general at the Department of Justice went back and looked at the origins of the Trump campaign Russia investigation. Republicans had been saying it would show political bias. The inspector general said — didn't find political bias, but he did find a lot of mistakes.
What do we take away from this?
David Brooks: Yes.
Well, with Fiona Hill and a lot of people who testified, we saw the federal government at its best. And now we're seeing another side, which is incompetence.
And I take them at their word there was no political bias. But there was certainly a lot of incompetence, and they were certainly spinning the game. And the investigation into Carter Page, just for one [actually the only] example, he was meeting with the Russians. And he was telling the CIA, I just want you to know I'm meeting with them.
And the FBI did not disclose that fact that he told the CIA, which certainly makes it look a lot less suspicious than it otherwise would be. And, frankly, this vindicates a lot of the — not everything, but a lot of the stuff Devin Nunes was saying, House Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, saying they weren't playing fair.
And so this is a case where I don't like — maybe there wasn't bias, but there was certainly a lot of incompetence and there were certainly people getting over their skis in trying to pursue an investigation, maybe without as much cause as they pretended.
Judy Woodruff: What do you take away from that.
Mark Shields: That there wasn't — I agree with David. There were serious mistakes made.
And I think that FISA process is open, not only to scrutiny, but to severe criticism. But I — when Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, appointed by President Trump, says investigations were opened in 2016 for an authorized purpose and with the adequate federal predication — predication the recent word that is now in vogue — but he gets lambasted by the President.
It's like everybody got something out of this investigation, except the President, who wanted it to be a coup. And there was no coup. That's it. I mean, I think a lot of people have to answer what they did as far as the visa [FISA?], but there was no coup.
SUMMARY: On Friday, the Trump administration and China announced the first phase of a deal to de-escalate the trade war between the world’s two largest economies. But the agreement, positioned by the White House as a major victory, has prompted many questions, as well as bipartisan criticism. Nick Schifrin reports and talks to Mary Lovely of the Peterson Institute for International Economics.
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SUMMARY: State governments continue to crack down on flavored e-cigarettes and other vape products, largely in response to the deaths and illnesses that began coming to light this past summer. But as lawmakers deliberate over their policy response to vaping, researchers are still trying to understand the cause of the illnesses. Science correspondent Miles O’Brien reports.
SUMMARY: The United Kingdom goes to the polls Thursday in what is being considered the most significant election since the end of World War II. Conservative Prime Minister Boris Johnson needs a clear majority in Parliament to force through a deal for a January Brexit. But as special correspondent Malcolm Brabant reports, British voters have trust issues with both Johnson and Labour rival Jeremy Corbyn.
SUMMARY: The United Kingdom has voted in its third parliamentary election since 2015. The country is sharply divided, and the outcome will result in fundamental changes to British policy for generations to come. Nick Schifrin reports on what appears to be a decisive Conservative victory, according to exit polls, and talks to Chatham House’s Robin Niblett and CSIS’s Heather Conley about what it means.
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SUMMARY: A long-awaited report into the origins of the Russia probe found no evidence of a political conspiracy against President Trump. But the Justice Department’s Inspector General criticized the FBI’s handling of wiretap applications used in the early stages of the investigation. William Brangham reports and Judy Woodruff talks to John Carlin, former assistant attorney general for national security.
Paras, a North Park institution for 70 years, will close Dec 29, a victim of Internet, its owner says
Todd Viter didn’t notice the large signs when he walked into Paras Newsstand to buy Wednesday’s Los Angeles Times.
Then someone told him what they said: “Store Closing/ Everything Must Be Sold!”
“I’m shocked,” said Viter, 51, learning that owners Ken and Ann Gabbara plan to close Paras by year’s end. “I love the history stuff he has — the World War II magazines and stuff about after World War II. I’m disappointed.”
For 70 years, this shop near the corner of University Avenue and 30th Street has sold cigars, gum, newspapers and magazines. Magazines by the ton. There are now about 2,500 unique titles on Paras’ racks, the county’s largest stockpile of current periodicals. For readers like David Harrell, a fan of railroad monthlies, and Edgar Hall, a Soap Opera Digest devotee, there’s no place like Paras.
To wander the crowded aisles is to immerse yourself in hobbies, vocations, passions. Turn a corner and there’s every conceivable publication for anglers: Ice Fishing, Sportfishing, Pacific Coast Sportfishing, Fly Fisherman, Bassin’. A nearby shelf holds some of Harrell’s favorites: Trains, Railway, Locomotive, Great Train Stations, Passenger Train Journal, Railfan & Railroad, Tramways & Urban Transit: The International Light Rail Magazine.
“Some of the bestsellers are magazines about cars, planes, boats, guns and the literary stuff,” said Kent Snyder, a Paras employee. “Then there are the weeklies — you know, the tabloids.”
After Snyder’s hiring in July 1986, some mornings he’d find impatient fans of The Globe and The National Enquirer lined up outside the door.
“The little old ladies would be standing out on the corner,” Snyder. “The owner would say, ‘Just a minute, ladies.’”
At Paras, these mob scenes are history though the store still carries History, National Geographic History, All About History, Current History. There are still regulars who come in for newspapers and magazines they can’t find elsewhere, but nearly as many consumers buy candy or coffee. There’s also a steady flock of browsers who use their cell phones to snap photos of intriguing covers, then seek those publications online.
“We tried hard, we put up a good fight,” said Ken Gabbara, who bought this shop with his wife in 2007. “But Mr. Internet is winning the war and there’s nothing I can do about that.”
‘Another family’
On this site in 1949, Frank Hill opened a cigar and notions shop. Four years later, he sold the place to Chris Paras, who began stocking reading material. By the 1970s, Paras boasted an impressive selection of out-of-town newspapers. Visitors from Miami popped in to buy the Herald, New Yorkers to peruse the Post and the Times, Chicagoans the Tribune, Seattleites the Post-Intelligencer.
Most of those newspapers are no longer delivered to Paras, as publishers encourage far-flung readers to subscribe to digital editions. The magazine inventory, though, continued to swell, prompting Paras to expand in 1995 and again in 1996.
“Even with the Internet, the business has been pretty steady,” Snyder said. “It’s only in the last couple of years that it’s gone down.”
Besides North Park, there were Paras newsstands in Ocean Beach and La Mesa. In 1987, the Paras family sold the North Park shop to two brothers, Michael and Rocky Attallah. Twenty years later, they sold to the Gabbaras.
The couple added snacks, souvenirs, candles, jewelry and other items to the store. But the backbone of Paras — pronounced like the French capital, Paris — remains the many, many magazines.
This is the place if you want the latest issue of Sea Classics, Classic Boat, Wooden Boat, Good Old Boat or just plain Boat. Where enthusiasts scope out Guns & Ammo, Gun Digest, and Precision Rifle Shooter. Where do-it-themselfers pick up Old House Journal, New Old House, Home & Design, House & Garden, Homes & Gardens, Southern Home and San Diego Home/Garden.
And it’s where Edgar Hall has been buying Soap Opera Digest for the last 15 years.
“I’m not going to be happy about this,” Hall said of the impending closure. “I’ve gotten to know the staff here. It’s almost like having another family.”
One final Sunday
Like video rental stores, newspapers, shopping malls and other institutions upended by online competition, Paras Newsstand’s inefficiencies are part of its charm. A No. 6 bus stops right outside the shop’s open door, and the driver yells a good-natured gibe at Ken Gabbara. Street people wander in, buying the occasional coffee, chocolate bar or sticks of incense. David Harrell, 83, knows he could buy the Los Angeles Times at newsboxes close to his downtown residence, but he’d rather take the bus to Paras.
“I don’t like the street machines at all,” he said. “Sometimes, you lose your money.”
“We’ve formed a lot of good relationships,” said Ken Gabbara, 66. “We’re very lucky.”
Gabbara said he’s still making ends meet at Paras, but the store’s profits are shrinking while he and his wife’s health issues are expanding. He’d like to find a buyer for this store, but now plans to stay open only through Dec 29, the Sunday after Christmas.
“I want everyone to be able to pick up their Sunday papers,” he said.
On the walls of Paras, above shelves holding the John Wayne Ultimate Puzzle Book, Hawaii Weddings and Dapper Dan, some of the many stories written about this institution are framed. The headline on one: “We’ll Always Have Paras.”
Not sure. Nor, it seems, will we always have a place to buy the latest Paris Review, Cuba Plus, New Eastern Europe, Sactown, Tahoe, Salt Lake, Los Angeles or San Diego Magazine.
SUMMARY: Syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks join Judy Woodruff to discuss the week in politics, including public opinion and legal debate in the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, the shifting race among 2020 Democrats and what we’re thankful for during this holiday week.
Judy Woodruff (NewsHour): Now here to analyze the politics of this Thanksgiving week, as always, are Shields and Brooks. That is syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks.
Hello to both of you.
Mark Shields, syndicated columnist: Hi, Judy.
Judy Woodruff: So, the impeachment process, we are seeing the Judiciary Committee marching ahead, David.
There's a hearing next week where they are going to talk to constitutional scholars about impeachment. The committee sent a letter to the White House saying the President has until next Friday to say whether he's going to call witnesses and provide evidence.
Meantime, the President is out on the campaign trail saying the whole thing is a witch-hunt, and he's not going to cooperate.
And is he making some progress, because we're seeing the polls show some slipping in support for impeachment?
David Brooks, New York Times: Yes, especially in swing states.
And so I think the contrast for the coming week will be that the Democrats will be ever more treating this like a legal matter, and Donald Trump will be ever more treating it like a political matter, and them trying to close it in on the exact events and him trying to widen it, see, this is just what they have been doing at me. They have been — this is an attack on you.
And they will both win. And the impeachment now numbers are just like every other numbers in our politics, completely divided right down the middle, and with nobody moving on either side.
And so I suspect Trump will see this as a tremendous way to get his base, and Democrats will see the same way. And we will march forward. And eventually it'll end. And then we will turn our attention the Democratic Party, and I'm not sure what will have been achieved.
Judy Woodruff: His best defense, go out and call it a witch-hunt?
Mark Shields: David is such a Pollyanna.
Look, Judy, I think continues to slide is just a little bit of an overstatement.
If you think — compare this to Watergate, it took 26 months after the break-in at Watergate, 14 months of hearings, to get to the point where we are now with Richard Nixon. That was the summer of 1974, one month before he resigned, to the point we are with Donald Trump right now.
And as far as — I mean, you can look at all the polls. Ipsos does it — has done six since the end of October. It's gone from 47 percent in favor of impeachment, to 41 against, to 47 percent in favor of impeachment, 41 — 40 against. I mean, it's been next to — next to no movement.
I just I think that we have, quite frankly, is early stages. And we're very much in the early stages. And I think for us to rush — Jeff Horwitt, the Democratic pollster who does The Wall Street Journal/NBC poll with Bill McInturff, the Republican, compares it, the impeachment and conviction in the Senate, as to the criminal part of a trial.
And the civil — the civil trial will be the election of 2020. Donald Trump may very well be not guilty in the criminal part, but, right now, he's in just terrible, terrible shape looking at November 2020.
Have 47 — 6 percent of Americans who say they would vote for anybody except Donald Trump. And 34 percent say they will vote for Donald Trump, regardless of who runs against him.
David Brooks: Yes.
Mark Shields: So, I mean, he's really just in worse shape than any incumbent in my lifetime.
Judy Woodruff: So are you saying — and I'm going to turn to David on this. Are you saying that this is not about impeaching him and removing him from office by the Congress, but doing it — but damaging him enough so that it happens at the polls next November?
David Brooks: Well, that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Mark Shields: No.
David Brooks: It's supposed to be a legal thing to see if he did high crimes and misdemeanors.
I don't — I agree, I think Donald Trump is in serious trouble, more than — more than most of my Democratic friends do. That having said, in swing states, The Times had a poll that gave everybody anxiety on the Democratic side about two weeks ago showing Trump winning all these swing states.
And we have, surprisingly, shockingly little data on how he's doing in swing states or how impeachment is doing in swing states. The one thing we do have is a poll that Marquette did in Wisconsin, which was 40 percent support, 55 percent oppose.
And so if that's the way the swing states are reacting, then that's not a good thing, because this is not going to be about looking at how the whole country views this. This is about how those swing voters are viewing it.
And whether the Democrats want to go and do Watergate style or Watergate length set of hearings, it seems to me that's highly problematic.
I think there's a case, as we discussed last week for bringing in Mike Pompeo, and trying to ask him some questions. But the Democrats so far seem loath to do this because they want to rush this thing. And so that — that's just a big philosophical difference. Do they go big and try to engineer that, or do they say, let's just get this over with?
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SUMMARY: It was another day of revelations in the saga of President Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, which prompted the impeachment inquiry. What was Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, doing in that Eastern European country? What did the President know about the whistleblower complaint -- and when? Yamiche Alcindor joins Judy Woodruff to discuss the latest and put it into context.
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SUMMARY: Syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks join Judy Woodruff to discuss the week in politics, including the biggest revelations and most compelling characters from impeachment hearings, whether they will change voters' minds about impeachment, how 2020 Democrats performed in their fifth debate and President Trump’s moves on military justice.
Judy Woodruff (NewsHour): Historic impeachment hearings and another debate for the Democrats running for President. It was a very full week. It has been, is a very full week for American politics.
And here to help us make sense of it all, as always, Shields and Brooks. That is syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks.
Hello to both of you.
Let's go straight to impeachment, Mark.
Five days of hearings now, three more this week, a lot of drama, a lot of attention on television. What did you take away from it?
Mark Shields. syndicated columnist: I took away from it, Judy, a quote from Oscar Handlin, who was the great American historian, Pulitzer Prize-winning for his book "The Uprooted."
He said, I sought to write a book on American immigrants, the history of American immigrants, and I realized that immigrants are American history.
And that point was driven home so forcefully. It was Ambassador Yovanovitch. It was Colonel Vindman. It was Fiona Hill.
And these are people who are Americans by choice, not by accident, like you and I. And he and she, every one of them was reassuring. And I have to say, for every cheap political ad that is run against nameless, faceless bureaucrats, these were people with names and with faces and who put their careers, their comfort, their peace of mind, their futures, in many cases, on the line to speak truth to power.
And I was humbled to watch them and to listen to them.
Judy Woodruff: David?
David Brooks, New York Times: Yes, I agree with that. It was a good couple of weeks for Washington [DC] insiders, people who have been trained by the government to do things a certain way.
And that way — there's a right way and there's a wrong way. And most of the people who have been trained by the Foreign Service understood quickly that this was the wrong way to go about things. This was unethical.
I think Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani, I don't think it ever occurred to them that this was unethical. What strikes me — and this came out in Sondland's testimony — that everyone was in the loop, that this was not something they tried to hide.
This was just something they thought was the way politics gets done or foreign policy gets done, that there's no division between personal gain and public service.
And so I think that's the big takeaway for me out of these weeks, is that, when this started, you could have thought, oh, it was Trump just rambling on a phone call, because we had that transcript, if you remember.
Judy Woodruff: Right.
David Brooks: But now it's clear that everybody knew. And some people reacted with shock and horror. And some people said, well, this is just the crazy stuff we got to tolerate working for Donald Trump.
Judy Woodruff: Is the case, Mark, now made stronger that the Democrats have been trying to make that they say is a slam dunk, that the President tried to get the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son, in other words, to do the President a favor politically?
Mark Shields: Yes, I think it is.
Yes, I think Ambassador Sondland was probably the least impressive, but the most damaging, of all the witnesses. He was going to go down. He was going to say, as David put it, in the loop were Secretary Pompeo, in the loop was Chief of Staff Mulvaney, in the loop was Ambassador Bolton, who, interestingly enough, we're going to find out if he has the same courage of his convictions, the same backbone as Fiona Hill, who worked for him did, or has a $2 million book sale advance bought his silence.
I would be interested to see if he's going to come forward and speak truth to power.
Judy Woodruff: He tweeted today that he's going to speak.
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But we don't know.
Mark Shields: He got his Twitter back, is what I read in his tweets today. And I'm just really reassured by that.
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So, I just — I really think that the case is strong.
What I have underestimated — and I think David was right — is the fear that David — that Donald Trump exercises over Republicans.
I mean, people talked about Lyndon Johnson being a fearsome political leader. They don't even approach. I mean, he [Trump] strikes fear into the hearts of Republicans up and down the line. And I think that is — that, to me, has been eye-opening in its dimensions.
Judy Woodruff: So, the case — is the case stronger, David, or does it even matter?
David Brooks: Well, the case is legally stronger, but it's not politically stronger.
We have had now a bunch of polls. Nate Silver's Web site, FiveThirtyEight, has an agglomeration of them. And it shows that the public support for impeachment has gone down very slightly over the last couple of weeks. It's now about 45-45. The nation is evenly divided.
In swing states, it's gone — impeachment has become less popular. We don't have a lot of data. But, in Wisconsin, only 40 percent of voters support impeachment. Roughly 53 oppose it.
And I think we have seen there's a Politico poll where they asked independent voters, what do you think? And independent voters don't like it at all, and by 61-23, they think that's the sort of thing that's more of interest to media people than it is to me.
And so I don't think — I don't think — I think everybody knows he's guilty. They just don't think this is the issue that affects my life. And why are they talking about all this stuff?
Judy Woodruff: How do you — I mean, Mark, the Republicans keep saying, as we heard yesterday, it's a show trial, the Democrats have been out to get President Trump from day one.
Is that the argument that is winning people over?
Mark Shields: It's an argument, Judy, but it's not a persuasive argument. I mean, just as a political calculus, it was not — it didn't make sense.
I mean, there was no question, after the Mueller Report was botched, or however you want to put it, or the — Attorney General Barr stepped on it, Donald Trump felt liberated, and liberated enough to make that phone call.
And the reality is that there wasn't a Democrat who was not under indictment or detox who was thinking in terms of impeachment at that point. It wasn't until the news of this came out, and it became so obvious.
I mean, not to act was an action itself that Democrats or anybody else in Congress or America would have to answer for. I mean, if this is modus operandi, acceptable for an American President to do this, to extort basically another country that is dependent upon us, to get information, unflattering, unhelpful, damaging information the President's political opponent, and that is — that's, what, OK, acceptable, look the other way?
I mean, you have got a lot to answer for if you don't address it.
David Brooks: Yes, I think that's a strong argument. They had to do this just to uphold the standards of our country, and that I can't think of any President who has done anything as bad as this and didn't get impeached.
And so, I mean, that's basically true. I think Democrats do have to acknowledge that it's not a political winner. And some of them walked into this sort of knowing that.
Judy Woodruff: Why not? What do you mean, not a political winner?
David Brooks: Well, I think if you're losing independents and you're losing swing states, and you're — it's very likely now that six of your Senate candidates will be sitting in Washington, D.C., through January during the Senate trial, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and the rest, then this is a kind of a disadvantage.
Judy Woodruff: Right.
David Brooks: And I think it is just — I think — my conversations with Trump supporters in red states, first of all, when I go out there, nobody talks about. It's just not on the subject. Then, if you ask, everyone I have spoken to says, yes, he did it, and he shouldn't have done, it was a stupid thing to do.
But this is — we're in the context of a long political and cultural war in this country. And, finally, I have got a guy who hits back at the people who hate me. And so I'm not going to abandon him.
And so they don't see it as a unique trial about one incident. They see it as part of the longer political battle we have in this country, and they're not going to abandon him. That's been my experience with people I have spoken with.